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Heartland Ep. 5: 'Nuns On The Bus' + Gender-Outlaw/Former Scientologist Kate Bornstein

katebornstein.com/ Santiago Felipe (L) + Rachel Otwell (R)
Kate Bornstein (L) + Sister Simone Cambpell at the Illinois statehouse, leading a rally

On today's episode we talk with Sister Simon Campbell, a nun who leads by example when it comes to social justice. She stopped by the statehouse with a bus load of other nuns last week for their 'Mend the Gaps' tour. Also, Kate Bornsteinvisited Springfield a few years ago and stopped by the NPR Illinois station to discuss her memoir, aQueer & Pleasant Danger. She's on an epic spiritual journey, weaving her way through Judaism, Scientology, Buddhism and Taoism. She talks to us about that, and much, much more. Tune in!

Rounding out our episode is the song 'I Will Love Again' off The Bride, Bat for Lashes' newest album. We weren't able to include all of our conversation with Kate Bornstein on the program, listen to the rest below. She talks about what exactly she means by calling herself a gender-outlaw; why she says "comedy is a tactic for the oppressed", and her one rule of thumb: 'Don't be mean.'

Listen to an extended interview with Kate Bornstein

Check out a promotional video that spoofs on the song 'All About That Bass' by Meghan Trainor:

Below is a trailer for a filmmade about Kate Bornstein: 

Rachel Otwell of the Illinois Times is a former NPR Illinois reporter.
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